As you can see from the bolded names, there were only twelve members of the D. We can therefore conclude that the total number of students in Harry's year all four houses that advanced to N. Defense Against the Dark Arts was It seems somewhat unlikely that more than half the year was unable to advance to N. Defense Against the Dark Arts, so that would put the total number of students in Harry's year at somewhere below Assuming even distribution between years, this would be pretty consistent with the most conservative estimates of total number of students — a couple hundred or so.
But if indeed there were only a couple hundred students you might expect Harry to at least have a passing familiarity with most, if not all, of them. Yet throughout the series Harry routinely passes by or interacts with students that he does not seem to know at all. She told me about your hearing. So — is it really true? If there are only 20 students per class that would be very strange. If there were or more students in a class it would make sense. In the same scene we see that Harry barely knows the names of Terry Boot, Anthony Goldstein, and Michael Corner who are all in his year, and doesn't know Zacharias Smith's name at all:.
Likewise, Harry does not know Cormac McLaggen in the beginning of Half-Blood Prince , despite them being in the same house and only one year apart. This means that Harry does not know someone whom he has been sharing a common room with for five years. This might be understandable if there were upwards of students in a house; less so if there were only 70 students in a house. Before he could respond, however, there was a disturbance outside their compartment door; a group of fourth-year girls was whispering and giggling together on the other side of the glass.
And one of them, a bold-looking girl with large dark eyes, a prominent chin,and long black hair pushed her way through the door. Even Hermione apparently doesn't know a girl she's been sharing a common room with for more than five years:. Most likely, J. Rowling either didn't think it through enough, or just messed up on the calculations, because there are several passages that imply a relatively small number of students yet there is also significant evidence that the total is a lot more than that.
They followed Professor McGonagall across the flagged stone floor. Harry could hear the drone of hundreds of voices from a doorway to the right — the rest of the school must already be here — but Professor McGonagall showed the first years into a small, empty chamber off the hall. Hundreds of seats were raised in stands around the field so that the spectators were high enough to see what was going on. A rumble, as though of distant thunder, told them that the feast had just ended.
From either end of the corridor where they stood came the sound of hundreds of feet climbing the stairs, and the loud, happy talk of well-fed people; next moment, students were crashing into the passage from both ends. They hid themselves inside it, listening to the rumbling of hundreds of people moving overhead, and the staffroom door banging open. Harry, Ron, and Hermione followed the rest of the school along the platform and out onto a rough mud track, where at least a hundred stagecoaches awaited the remaining students, each pulled, Harry could only assume, by an invisible horse, because when they climbed inside and shut the door, the coach set off all by itself, bumping and swaying in procession.
One casual wave of his wand and the long tables flew to the edges of the hall and stood themselves against the walls; another wave, and the floor was covered with hundreds of squashy purple sleeping bags.
Hundreds upon hundreds of owls of every breed imaginable were nestled here on perches that rose right up to the top of the tower, nearly all of them asleep, though here and there a round amber eye glared at Harry.
Harry heard the buzzing of the hundreds of students on the other side of the wall, before Professor McGonagall closed the door. And in no time at all, hundreds upon hundreds of pairs of feet could be heard passing the tent, their owners talking excitedly, laughing, joking.
Harry felt as separate from the crowd as though they were a different species. Harry waited, every fiber of him hoping, praying. He seemed to be looking at everything around him through some sort of shimmering, transparent barrier, like a heat haze, which made the enclosure and the hundreds of faces around him swim strangely. Five minutes later, the stands had begun to fill; the air was full of excited voices and the rumbling of feet as the hundreds of students filed into their seats.
The bell rang for the end of the lesson. Overhead and all around came the elephantine sounds of hundreds of students on the move. The sun was high in the sky now and when Harry entered the Owlery the glassless windows dazzled his eyes; thick silvery beams of sunlight crisscrossed the circular room in which hundreds of owls nestled on rafters, a little restless in the early morning light, some clearly just returned from hunting. With the usual deafening scraping noise, the benches were moved back and the hundreds of students began to file out of the Great Hall toward their dormitories.
He could only suppose that he was missing Malfoy amongst the hundreds of tiny black dots upon the map. The sound of hundreds of people marching toward the Room of Requirement grew louder and louder as he returned to the marble stairs. This may not be entirely accurate. Even though there were only 12 non-Ravenclaws in Harry's year at the original DA meeting, we know that at least one such person joined subsequently. Thus, one could argue that Seamus was also taught the Shield Charm the previous year, thus making 13 non-Ravenclaws in Harry's year in total, which would indeed be more than half of the 25 students in the Defense Against the Dark Arts Class.
However, there are a couple of counterpoints to this. First of all, Harry had taught the Shield Charm before Seamus joined; this is clear from it being mentioned in Chapter Twenty-Five of Order of the Phoenix , two chapters prior to Seamus joining:.
He was improving so fast it was quite unnerving and when Harry taught them the Shield Charm, a means of deflecting minor jinxes so that they rebounded upon the attacker, only Hermione mastered the charm faster than Neville. One could perhaps suggest that at a later meeting after Seamus joined they reviewed Shield Charms, and therefore Seamus could be counted as the thirteenth member of the class who already knew how to do a Shield Charm.
However this brings us to the second counterpoint which is that even if we count Seamus we would still be one person short, since we counted Harry as one of the 13, though Harry would not actually be considered as part of the half of the class that he had taught the previous year.
It would seem, then, that we are still missing one person, in which case we would have to concede that the half of the class threshold was met using Ravenclaws. There hasn't been a canon answer to this that I know of, and JKR has repeatedly admitted that she is bad at math. The most popular answer that is out on the web is extrapolated from the number of boys and girls in Harry's class 10 , multiplied by of years 7 and number of houses 4 to get Please remain seated while I collect your parchment!
Several people laughed. A couple of students at the front desks got up, took hold of Professor Flitwick beneath the elbows and lifted him back on to his feet. So if there are over rolls of parchment, we can get the number of students taking their OWL's that year as somewhere between and What if there were less students in the Hogwarts Class of because the period when the other kids would have been conceived was when Voldemort's reign of power was at its peak?
Between the dozens of adults who joined the Order, the dozens of civilians who were killed in Death Eater raids, and the dozens of adults that didn't want to bring a child into the world, just then…It's actually entirely possible that there was a baby drought for a few years in the wizarding world, leading to a smaller class size a decade later.
So the reason there's such a lack of students in Harry's class of is because of the fear Voldemort spread during his reign. What an absolute shitbag.
And it seems credible enough to us. So here's hoping the baby drought is no more and the wizard population is blooming these days in the fictional magical world.
Follow Cat on Twitter. Just my 2 knuts. For classes Harry usually says something like 'Herbology with the Hufflepuffs' or 'Potions with the Slytherins. That would mean that there are perhaps a little over 20 kids per class. Yes, I think so. It could be possible in some subjects. But for others requiring a greater attention from the teacher because the subject could be hazardous , like Potions or Herbology, they had to split the class into 2.
I thought that they usually have classes just with their own House, but sometimes share some subjects with another and those seem to be double lessons for length, too. That's how I interpreted it. Flickerflame posted over a year ago. Now granted this is the largest limiting factor on the amount of students possible. This is because if you look at Gryffindor Tower it is one main tower with two smaller towers attached, these being the dormitories.
Each side, girls and boys, is said to have seven floors, one for each year. When we look into a dorm room we would see only four or five beds.
Now lets step back for a second and look at the entire school. The high school I went to had a total of 2, students in it that's around per year, with roughly 22 classes for one year going on at any moment. Now applying this math to Hogwarts we get two main limiting factors, amount of teachers and amount of beds in a dorm room. The teachers have their own table at the front of the dining hall to where they sit and everyone assumes that these are the only teachers but if we see them as just heads of departments this opens up for many more teachers to possibly be there just not at the head table, so one factor explained, onto the next.
Dorm rooms, we see in the movies and guess from the books there is only five kids to a room and assume their is only those five boys and five girls to a year, but people this is a world of magic. With magic there is the possibility that the doors are DNA coded. This means that there is maybe 6 different dorm rooms for year 2 males stacked "on top" of each other and when a male student grabs the door handle it opens his room, after he closes the door another student can grab the handle and open it and would find his room without the same guy, of course it could go by intention.
If you wanted your room you open the door to your room but if you wanted a friends room you open the door and get his room. With the concept of "stacked" dorm rooms in the same space it opens up the possibility, again, for more students, and really Hogwarts can house, teach, and feed that amount.
Tags: carriages students teachers transportation. There were twenty broomsticks lying on the ground awaiting the first year Gryffindors and Slytherins for their first flying lesson, which bears that number out PS9.
A double class of Potions — Gryffindor and Slytherin — had twenty cauldrons set up. Not a one has spoken up in class, has been part of any parties or activities in the common room, or anything like that. Judging by the numbers cited above for Herbology, flying, and Potions, they must not even be in the same classes.
If there are any others, where in the world are they?
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